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Trevor
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posted 11-01-2001 03:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Trevor   Click Here to Email Trevor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out http://www.gatt.org/. Read the text carefully...

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Daren
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posted 11-01-2001 04:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Daren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's to free speech and anti-globalization! Ah, those wily yes-men.

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Nay
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posted 11-01-2001 09:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Nay   Click Here to Email Nay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is "free speech" stealing images and even copyrights? Isn't that page breaking some law?

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Daren
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posted 11-01-2001 13:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Daren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What part was copyrighted? Where were the stolen images?

Okay, other than the logo, I don't see anything truly illegal going on. And even with the logo, the Yes Men don't purport that it's their logo; they freely admit that it's of the WTO.

Anyway, my statement wasn't so much one of complete agreement, just delight at seeing freespeech in action and the anti-globalization movement pulling such a stunt.

[This message has been edited by Daren (edited 11-01-2001).]

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Nay
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posted 11-01-2001 14:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Nay   Click Here to Email Nay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fact that they admit it's not their logo doesn't matter... if I steal your car, and then shout out "I FREELY ADMIT THIS IS DAREN'S CAR", I'm still doing something illegal.

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Daren
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posted 11-01-2001 15:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Daren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nay, don't even think about trying to compare a physical object that is subject to direct and exclusive ownership to an intangible trademark. They admit it's the WTO's trademark, so they're not claiming it's their own. Thus, they're not stealing it. The image is not subject to direct ownership. I can say WTO, World Trade Organization, etc, as much as I want, without fear of repurcussions. I can also use their logo provided I don't claim it's my own, but the WTO may or may not reserve the right to ask me not to do so. Whether they are within their rights to do so is still a little blurred in the legal world.

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Nay
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posted 11-01-2001 17:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Nay   Click Here to Email Nay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the logo is owned by the WTO, then it's owned by the WTO --- there's no debate. If I start putting the Gap logo on my own brand of clothing, I'd be breaking the law, wouldn't I? And as for the authorization thing, I seriously doubt that the WTO is giving GATT permission to use their logo. Hence, the law breaks.

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